Lithium-ion Battery Checks

The industry’s become quite accustomed to offering an option of lithium-ion batteries. However, there are advantages and disadvantages to these machines. For more information, watch Locators’ video guide below to gain a better appreciation of how lithium-ion batteries function in comparison to something like the traditional lead-acid and battery charge.

If you do have any questions regarding Lithium-ion Battery Checks please do not hesitate to call one of our friendly team members on 01202 854 200.

00:00 - Introduction
So the industry’s now become quite accustomed – particularly in smaller machines – to offering an option of lithium-ion batteries.
00:10 - Lithium-ion
There are advantages and disadvantages to these machines. Really, the main two disadvantages are – to lithium-ion – is that you cannot operate the machine for very extended periods of time without charging it. So these trucks are the polar opposite of lead-acid in that they are designed to be opportunity charged. They have a smaller capacity than a lead-acid battery but you can get quite a high volume of the power back into the battery within 30-60 minutes. Unlike a normal truck which might take 8-12 hours to recharge. So, that’s one downside is that if you’re in an operation where you’re continuously moving the truck for 5 or 6 hours without a break – with no time to recharge or opportunity charge – then lithium-ion’s not for you, you need to stick with the traditional lead-acid and battery change.
00:59 - The Price
The other downside is the price. Lithium-ion is more expensive and its newer technology than a lead-acid. So, much like a TESLA car which uses lithium-ion batteries – well, a different type of lithium-ion but it uses lithium-ion batteries – these trucks are more expensive to buy. The advantages are numerous, in that you can run the truck 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if you want to and just keep charging it for 45 minutes or an hour while on breaks and things like that. So you get maximum value out of the asset. You don’t need to do any battery changing – so there’s no manual handling involved – and some would say, best of all, you never top them up because it’s a sealed battery unit. You don’t go into it, you don’t top it up, you don’t need to check the battery levels or anything like that.
01:16 - Unlike a lead-acid battery
Unlike a lead-acid battery, if you over discharge one of these and run it down flat it’s quite likely that it’ll be unrecoverable. Which means – let’s say, on a counterbalance truck, where you’ve got a big lithium-ion battery in it – unlike this, a much bigger one – you may end up with a bill for £15-20,000s for a new battery. Unlike a lead-acid battery which might be £3-4,000. So, there are costs associated with it but if it’s managed properly, it works really really well for most operations. Because in not many sites are the operators sitting on the truck and staying on the truck in a continuous movement. Higher intensity operations? Lithium-ion might not be the answer for you.
02:17 - Battery Care

So, in terms of the battery care, what you need to be careful of with lithium-ion is – not exposing it to a very very hot environment or a very very cold environment. There are options that allow you to operate them in a cold store environment but a standard lithium-ion battery is not really designed to go and live in a cold store environment. Again, it’s another slightly extreme operation. You drive the truck around. If you’re going to leave it alone for more than 10-15 minutes – this one’s got a built in charger (picks up charger) – you simply plug it into the wall and then you come back, unplug it, reconnect the plug to the truck and you can use it immediately. There’s no heat involved in the battery – you don’t have to wait for the battery to cool down – so it’s much more user-friendly. Again, no battery topping, so if you’re in a sort of food environment you don’t have any risks of spillages or anything like that. But there are obviously – you know, you have to be careful with a lithium-ion battery in terms of the heat it’s exposed to.

03:11 - Toyota Batteries

Toyota’s batteries are unique in that they’re in a – a sort of . . . they almost look like small double A batteries stacked up within a tank. So, our engineers are able to – if there is a fault – are able to plug into that, take a single unit out and replace even individual little cells, rather than replacing a whole battery. So it’s much more flexible and cost-efficient than most other manufacturers.

03:30 - Toyota’s Advice Sheet
Whenever Locators sends out a lithium-ion truck – or a lithium-ion powered truck – we’ll send it with these (indicates to laminated placard) which is Toyota’s advice sheet on what you should do regarding charging or plugging the truck in, and also, some guides about the temperature environment that the trucks should work in. Now, our sales people will come to site and run through that and make sure that you’re happy with your obligations as the end user. But to be frank, we would have gone through all of that before we would even recommend or supply the truck. We would’ve looked through at you shift times and made sure that battery was actually able to do what you need it to do. It’s a much more sort of scientific and fact-driven process than lead-acid batteries, where you tend to inspect the biggest battery in the truck.
04:13 - Evaluate your Operation

The important thing with batteries is to talk to an experienced sales person and evaluate your operation. Don’t assume that lithium-ion is the answer to all your problems. You need to go through a proper technical process and make sure that the battery is right for you and it’s going to last the shifts that you need it to.

04:30 - 7 Year Warranty

One of the other little key benefit to lithium-ion batteries is their life. So, a normal battery is warranted for 5 years and quite often it is pretty much at the end of its life after that period. Lithium-ion batteries have a 7 year warranty and are capable of many, many more cycles than a lead-acid battery. So if you’re in a relatively average operation you might find that a lithium battery actually outlasts your truck and you’re buying new trucks to put around the lithium-ion battery, rather than the other way around. Which is a novel way of looking at it.

05:00 - Sign-off

If you’d like any advice about batteries or even electric trucks as a rule then please contact Locators on 01202 854 200, thank you.

00:00 - Introduction


So the industry’s now become quite accustomed – particularly in smaller machines – to offering an option of lithium-ion batteries.

00:10 - Lithium-ion


There are advantages and disadvantages to these machines. Really, the main two disadvantages are – to lithium-ion – is that you cannot operate the machine for very extended periods of time without charging it. So these trucks are the polar opposite of lead-acid in that they are designed to be opportunity charged. They have a smaller capacity than a lead-acid battery but you can get quite a high volume of the power back into the battery within 30-60 minutes. Unlike a normal truck which might take 8-12 hours to recharge. So, that’s one downside is that if you’re in an operation where you’re continuously moving the truck for 5 or 6 hours without a break – with no time to recharge or opportunity charge – then lithium-ion’s not for you, you need to stick with the traditional lead-acid and battery change.

00:59 - The Price

The other downside is the price. Lithium-ion is more expensive and its newer technology than a lead-acid. So, much like a TESLA car which uses lithium-ion batteries – well, a different type of lithium-ion but it uses lithium-ion batteries – these trucks are more expensive to buy. The advantages are numerous, in that you can run the truck 24 hours a day, 7 days a week if you want to and just keep charging it for 45 minutes or an hour while on breaks and things like that. So you get maximum value out of the asset. You don’t need to do any battery changing – so there’s no manual handling involved – and some would say, best of all, you never top them up because it’s a sealed battery unit. You don’t go into it, you don’t top it up, you don’t need to check the battery levels or anything like that.

01:40 - Unlike a lead-acid battery


Unlike a lead-acid battery, if you over discharge one of these and run it down flat it’s quite likely that it’ll be unrecoverable. Which means – let’s say, on a counterbalance truck, where you’ve got a big lithium-ion battery in it – unlike this, a much bigger one – you may end up with a bill for £15-20,000s for a new battery. Unlike a lead-acid battery which might be £3-4,000. So, there are costs associated with it but if it’s managed properly, it works really really well for most operations. Because in not many sites are the operators sitting on the truck and staying on the truck in a continuous movement. Higher intensity operations? Lithium-ion might not be the answer for you.

02:17- Battery Care

So, in terms of the battery care, what you need to be careful of with lithium-ion is – not exposing it to a very very hot environment or a very very cold environment. There are options that allow you to operate them in a cold store environment but a standard lithium-ion battery is not really designed to go and live in a cold store environment. Again, it’s another slightly extreme operation. You drive the truck around. If you’re going to leave it alone for more than 10-15 minutes – this one’s got a built in charger (picks up charger) – you simply plug it into the wall and then you come back, unplug it, reconnect the plug to the truck and you can use it immediately. There’s no heat involved in the battery – you don’t have to wait for the battery to cool down – so it’s much more user-friendly. Again, no battery topping, so if you’re in a sort of food environment you don’t have any risks of spillages or anything like that. But there are obviously – you know, you have to be careful with a lithium-ion battery in terms of the heat it’s exposed to.

03:11 - Toyota Batteries


Toyota’s batteries are unique in that they’re in a – a sort of . . . they almost look like small double A batteries stacked up within a tank. So, our engineers are able to – if there is a fault – are able to plug into that, take a single unit out and replace even individual little cells, rather than replacing a whole battery. So it’s much more flexible and cost-efficient than most other manufacturers.

03:30 - Toyota’s Advice Sheet


Whenever Locators sends out a lithium-ion truck – or a lithium-ion powered truck – we’ll send it with these (indicates to laminated placard) which is Toyota’s advice sheet on what you should do regarding charging or plugging the truck in, and also, some guides about the temperature environment that the trucks should work in. Now, our sales people will come to site and run through that and make sure that you’re happy with your obligations as the end user. But to be frank, we would have gone through all of that before we would even recommend or supply the truck. We would’ve looked through at you shift times and made sure that battery was actually able to do what you need it to do. It’s a much more sort of scientific and fact-driven process than lead-acid batteries, where you tend to inspect the biggest battery in the truck.

04:13 - Evaluate your Operation


The important thing with batteries is to talk to an experienced sales person and evaluate your operation. Don’t assume that lithium-ion is the answer to all your problems. You need to go through a proper technical process and make sure that the battery is right for you and it’s going to last the shifts that you need it to.

04:30 - 7 Year Warranty


One of the other little key benefit to lithium-ion batteries is their life. So, a normal battery is warranted for 5 years and quite often it is pretty much at the end of its life after that period. Lithium-ion batteries have a 7 year warranty and are capable of many, many more cycles than a lead-acid battery. So if you’re in a relatively average operation you might find that a lithium battery actually outlasts your truck and you’re buying new trucks to put around the lithium-ion battery, rather than the other way around. Which is a novel way of looking at it.

04:59 - Sign-off


If you’d like any advice about batteries or even electric trucks as a rule then please contact Locators on 01202 854 200, thank you.

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